Commons:Deletion requests/File:Hinge-and-bracket-logo.png

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File:Hinge-and-bracket-logo.png

Above COM:TOO UK which is very low. Jonteemil (talk) 18:55, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Keep. This is flatly contradicted by Commons:Licensing#Simple_design. It's lettering, just lettering. It's not even remotely copyrightable, any more than the heading of this page. Every file in Category:Simple text logos is like this. Even Category:Coca-Cola logos are accepted on commons. Cnbrb (talk) 20:55, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

@Cnbrb: Different countries have different thresholds of originality (how complex something has to be to be copyrightable). The UK's TOO is very low, even w:File:EDGE magazine (logo).svg is copyrightable. I find the Hinge and bracket logo more complex than the Edge logo, it is hence above the TOO for me. The Coca-cola logo is surely copyrightable in the UK as well.Jonteemil (talk) 21:08, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

It's simply text written in a Formal Script typeface. It's not actually the official logo of a production. It's just text. There is no copyright claim on text. Cnbrb (talk) 21:12, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

It depends on how stylistically the text is written. w:File:EDGE magazine (logo).svg is also text, yet still copyrighted. The logo being official or not has no relevance.Jonteemil (talk) 22:14, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

But there isn't actually an official logo. It's just text, written in a font. If I re-do it in Helvetica, it would be the same. It's not copyrightable. This is an erroneous deletion request, simple as that. Cnbrb (talk) 06:19, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

The logo being inofficial or not is also irrelevant to the copyright question. Per COM:FONT, fonts cannot be copyrighted in the US, but it may in other countries. Given the origin of this logo (the UK) and UK's low threshold of originality this logo is probably copyrightable.Jonteemil (talk) 18:35, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

@Cnbrb: If the logo isn't official btw, then who created the logo?Jonteemil (talk) 18:41, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't know why this is difficult, but there is no official logo. If you look at the file description, it says "Source: own work, Author: Cnbrb". I cannot make this any clearer: it is text. Cnbrb (talk) 19:53, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

@Cnbrb: So you yourself created this logo? I just wanna be sure since 99% of own work claims here are bogus.Jonteemil (talk) 23:46, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

I am happy to confirm that I made the logo myself. I am in the 1% of non-bogus contributors. After 15 years of making contributions to Wikimedia, a little faith might be nice.16:01, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Okay, well, then it of course can't be a copyright violation since you are the copyright holder as well as uploader. I will however relicense it to {{CC-0}} which puts the file in the public domain which is what you want.Jonteemil (talk) 20:14, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Why would you make d:Special:Diff/1569198268 btw if the logo isn't official, it obviously suggests that it is? I haven't been able to find any usage of the logo by Hinge and Bracket which however would back your claim that it's not official.Jonteemil (talk) 23:52, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't know. You obviously read a lot more into Wikidata than I do. It's to populate the Wikidate infobox with a pretty picture. It makes no explicit claim of copyright. I cannot believe you are putting so much time and energy into investigating a simple text graphic. I cannot be clearer in my explanation. Please close this deletion request and move onto dealing with genuine violations. Thank you. Cnbrb (talk) 16:01, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Okay, since the logo isn't official nor used by the band I will remove it from the wikidata page. The definition of logo image on Wikidata is graphic mark or emblem commonly used by commercial enterprises, organizations and products, which your logo doesn't satisfy.Jonteemil (talk) 20:14, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

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Kept and relicense to {{PD-self}} since uploader is the creator and copyright holder. (non-admin closure) Jonteemil (talk) 20:14, 27 July 2022 (UTC)